Card Applications
Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new. Thank you! Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141
Hi Katherine, We don't ask gender on any of our patron forms. It was very easy to remove that question. On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:46 PM Katherine Francis via Michlib-l < michlib-l@mcls.org> wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new.
Thank you!
Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141
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We also don't request any gender related information on our card application forms. (Not sure why you would, honestly.) Barbara Beaton Assistant Director/Reference Librarian Milan Public Library Milan, MI 48160 734-439-1240 www.milanlibrary.org<http://www.milanlibrary.org> she/her ________________________________ From: Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org> on behalf of Devin Erlandson via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:50 PM To: Katherine Francis <francisk@libcoop.net> Cc: Michlib-l <Michlib-l@mcls.org> Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Card Applications Hi Katherine, We don't ask gender on any of our patron forms. It was very easy to remove that question. On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:46 PM Katherine Francis via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l@mcls.org>> wrote: Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new. Thank you! Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141 _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org> https://mail3.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l -- Devin Erlandson (she/her) Assistant Director Allegan District Library 269-673-4625 alleganlibrary.org<http://alleganlibrary.org/>
I mean, if you want to include gender. I believe the appropriate way to do it is to list: He/Him/His She/Her/Hers They/Them/Theirs And you should probably consider making it so they can choose more than one. Some non-binary individuals are comfortable with using more than one set of pronouns. On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:55 PM Barbara Beaton via Michlib-l < michlib-l@mcls.org> wrote:
We also don't request any gender related information on our card application forms. (Not sure why you would, honestly.)
Barbara Beaton
Assistant Director/Reference Librarian
Milan Public Library
Milan, MI 48160
734-439-1240
www.milanlibrary.org
she/her ------------------------------ *From:* Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org> on behalf of Devin Erlandson via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org> *Sent:* Monday, June 7, 2021 12:50 PM *To:* Katherine Francis <francisk@libcoop.net> *Cc:* Michlib-l <Michlib-l@mcls.org> *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] Card Applications
Hi Katherine,
We don't ask gender on any of our patron forms. It was very easy to remove that question.
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:46 PM Katherine Francis via Michlib-l < michlib-l@mcls.org> wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new.
Thank you!
Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141
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I guess I would question the necessity of the information. Melissa Middleton Media Specialist Lake Orion High School 248-693-5420 Ext 6202 Take Risks, Aim Higher, Never Stop Learning #FailurePreceedsSuccess Stay safe, stay active, keep reading, and stay happy. Currently Reading: The Guest List From: Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org> On Behalf Of Tekedra Lofton via Michlib-l Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 1:17 PM To: Barbara Beaton <barbara@milanlibrary.org> Cc: Michlib-l <Michlib-l@mcls.org>; Katherine Francis <francisk@libcoop.net> Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Card Applications External Message I mean, if you want to include gender. I believe the appropriate way to do it is to list: He/Him/His She/Her/Hers They/Them/Theirs And you should probably consider making it so they can choose more than one. Some non-binary individuals are comfortable with using more than one set of pronouns. On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:55 PM Barbara Beaton via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l@mcls.org>> wrote: We also don't request any gender related information on our card application forms. (Not sure why you would, honestly.) Barbara Beaton Assistant Director/Reference Librarian Milan Public Library Milan, MI 48160 734-439-1240 www.milanlibrary.org<http://www.milanlibrary.org> she/her ________________________________ From: Michlib-l <michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org>> on behalf of Devin Erlandson via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l@mcls.org>> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:50 PM To: Katherine Francis <francisk@libcoop.net<mailto:francisk@libcoop.net>> Cc: Michlib-l <Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org>> Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Card Applications Hi Katherine, We don't ask gender on any of our patron forms. It was very easy to remove that question. On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:46 PM Katherine Francis via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:michlib-l@mcls.org>> wrote: Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new. Thank you! Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141 _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org> https://mail3.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l -- Devin Erlandson (she/her) Assistant Director Allegan District Library 269-673-4625 alleganlibrary.org<http://alleganlibrary.org/> _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org> https://mail3.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l -- Thanks! Tekedra Lofton (she/her/hers) Community Engagement Librarian Taylor Community Library [http://taylor.lib.mi.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Logos-4.png] [Image: The library's logo composed of the braille letters "TCL" and "Taylor Community Library" printed below all in gradient shades of blue.] Confidential: This message and all contents contain information from the City of Taylor which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, or if you have received this message in error, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email or telephone 734-287-4840 and destroy the original message and all attachments without retaining any copies. ________________________________ CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Lake Orion Community Schools email system. Do NOT click on any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ________________________________
Hi Katherine, The Library Network shared system users group (about 50 public libraries) recently decided to remove gender from our patron records/forms. We hear input from several individuals, including an someone who is non-binary who expressed that there is no complete list that can be created. Most libraries had no need for collecting the data and it was pointed out that the only other demographic information that is collected on some of our library applications is birthdate (which may come up for discussion at a later date). Personal demographics are generally not collected and not needed for offering library services. Hope that helps, -Steve Steven K. Bowers Executive Director The Library Network (248) 536-3100 x107 sbowers@tln.lib.mi.us www.tln.org (he/him/his) ----- Original Message ----- From: "michlib-l@mcls.org" <michlib-l@mcls.org> To: "michlib-l@mcls.org" <Michlib-l@mcls.org> Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:44:21 PM Subject: [Michlib-l] Card Applications Hello, I was wondering if any library had a library card application form that included other options for gender other than male or female that you could share? We recently had a patron who doesn't identify as either and since our applications are outdated I thought it may be best to get something new. Thank you! Katherine Francis Utica Public Library 586-731-4141 _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail3.mcls.org_mailman_listinfo_michlib-2Dl&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=1EE0AJJXmcChMmY3NQmVorz8hJsAzpJPbIk7yFfP8C0&m=1yLG8KipCtr3iMlUEZzAWClhsFZ3ih35euA4Ipsp1IA&s=9hUu2dkxvy6VSniqRJoASUmxWBtY6OUnZmtm2xgs4fY&e=
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