Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries
For discussion: Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing." Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts? Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook! *My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.* ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com> Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak, As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment... Thank you Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
We ended up deciding to NOT have any drive through services as we would just end up bringing people out who may be sick, and sharing any germs that might be on the materials. We are trying to get patrons to hold onto what they have in the interest of not spreading germs. Our staff should not be put at risk, either. Dave Ewick, Southfield PL
On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Stanczak, Cindy via Michlib-l <michlib-l@mcls.org> wrote:
For discussion:
Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing."
Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts?
Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993
Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook!
My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com>
Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak,
As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment...
Thank you
Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
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Hi Cynthia, I have a call in to Anne Seurynck. Anne said she would talk with Clare Membiela. Randy Riley gave me a call as well to reassure me we should be able to continue. The initial thought is curbside is in compliance with the EO. My concern was the generic word "use" in section 1 and that all the exceptions for delivery service were specifically geared towards food service. I think the intent is more general but it was rushed into publication. As always, I don't think Lansing thinks about all the different ways libraries serve patrons. If I get a more restrictive interpretation, I'll pass it along. Paul From: "michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> To: "michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:14:12 PM Subject: [Michlib-l] Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries For discussion: Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing." Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts? Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at [ http://www.albionlibrary.org/ | www.albionlibrary.org ] , or find us on Facebook! My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: < [ mailto:MI@countingopinions.com | MI@countingopinions.com ] > Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: < [ mailto:director@albionlibrary.org | director@albionlibrary.org ] > Cc: < [ mailto:support@countingopinions.com | support@countingopinions.com ] > Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak, As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: [ https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment... | https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment... ] Thank you Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909 _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://mail2.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l
I really appreciate that, Paul. I'll keep an eye out for it. Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook! *My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.* On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:03 PM Paul McCann <pmccann@dexter.lib.mi.us> wrote:
Hi Cynthia,
I have a call in to Anne Seurynck. Anne said she would talk with Clare Membiela. Randy Riley gave me a call as well to reassure me we should be able to continue. The initial thought is curbside is in compliance with the EO. My concern was the generic word "use" in section 1 and that all the exceptions for delivery service were specifically geared towards food service. I think the intent is more general but it was rushed into publication. As always, I don't think Lansing thinks about all the different ways libraries serve patrons. If I get a more restrictive interpretation, I'll pass it along.
Paul
------------------------------ *From: *"michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> *To: *"michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> *Sent: *Monday, March 16, 2020 12:14:12 PM *Subject: *[Michlib-l] Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries
For discussion:
Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing."
Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts?
Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993
Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook!
*My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.*
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com>
Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak,
As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment...
Thank you
Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
_______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://mail2.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l
Sorry, hit "send" to soon. I've already announced closing curbside service until further notice, so even if a broad interpretation is given by the legal counsel, I'd appreciate knowing that, too. Many thanks and best wishes! Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook! *My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.* On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM Stanczak, Cindy <cstanczak@albionlibrary.org> wrote:
I really appreciate that, Paul. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993
Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook!
*My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.*
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:03 PM Paul McCann <pmccann@dexter.lib.mi.us> wrote:
Hi Cynthia,
I have a call in to Anne Seurynck. Anne said she would talk with Clare Membiela. Randy Riley gave me a call as well to reassure me we should be able to continue. The initial thought is curbside is in compliance with the EO. My concern was the generic word "use" in section 1 and that all the exceptions for delivery service were specifically geared towards food service. I think the intent is more general but it was rushed into publication. As always, I don't think Lansing thinks about all the different ways libraries serve patrons. If I get a more restrictive interpretation, I'll pass it along.
Paul
------------------------------ *From: *"michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> *To: *"michlib-l" <michlib-l@mcls.org> *Sent: *Monday, March 16, 2020 12:14:12 PM *Subject: *[Michlib-l] Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries
For discussion:
Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing."
Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts?
Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993
Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook!
*My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.*
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com>
Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak,
As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment...
Thank you
Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
_______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://mail2.mcls.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l
One difference, though, is that when you get food at a drive-through you don't return it. The only concern is transmission during the in-person exchange. We are in the (I think) unique position of handing out items that are then later returned to us. This seems like an important distinction that I'm not sure the governor's EO has taken into consideration. Deb Hemmye Adult Services Librarian Farmington Community Library Liberty Street Library 248-553-0321, ext. 217 ________________________________ From: Stanczak, Cindy <cstanczak@albionlibrary.org> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:14 PM To: Michlib-l Subject: [Michlib-l] Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries For discussion: Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing." Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts? Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org<http://www.albionlibrary.org/>, or find us on Facebook! My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com<mailto:MI@countingopinions.com>> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org<mailto:director@albionlibrary.org>> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com<mailto:support@countingopinions.com>> Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak, As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan's libraries will be closed "as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM." The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment... Thank you Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
We had planned to increase the cap on our limited total items, like DVDs and video games, and then send items out with the extended due date of 04/30 and ask for no returns at this time. We knew we'd empty our shelves, and we'd need to close down a few days when we come back to address all the massive returns, but then our community would have access to those resources. Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993 Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook! *My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.* On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:07 PM Deb Hemmye <Deb.Hemmye@farmlib.org> wrote:
One difference, though, is that when you get food at a drive-through you don't return it. The only concern is transmission during the in-person exchange. We are in the (I think) unique position of handing out items that are then later returned to us. This seems like an important distinction that I'm not sure the governor's EO has taken into consideration.
*Deb Hemmye* Adult Services Librarian Farmington Community Library Liberty Street Library 248-553-0321, ext. 217 ------------------------------ *From:* Stanczak, Cindy <cstanczak@albionlibrary.org> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* Michlib-l *Subject:* [Michlib-l] Curbside Service in light of Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closing Libraries
For discussion:
Given this new executive order, what's the thought on curbside delivery? Note that the executive order includes " Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing."
Is curbside delivery in the spirit of the order? Thoughts?
Cynthia Stanczak, MLS Library Director Albion District Library 501 S. Superior St. Albion, MI 49224 (517) 629-3993
Albion District Library: Transforming Minds, Changing Lives. Proudly serving our community since 1919. Online at www.albionlibrary.org, or find us on Facebook!
*My working day may not be your working day. Please do not feel obligated to reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.*
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <MI@countingopinions.com> Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Subject: Governor's Executive Order 2020-9 Closes Libraries To: <director@albionlibrary.org> Cc: <support@countingopinions.com>
Dear Ms. Cynthia Stanczak,
As a result of the COVID-19 virus Michigan’s libraries will be closed “as soon as possible, but no later than 3:00 PM on March 16 and continuing until March 30 at 11:59 PM.” The complete text of the Executive Order can be found at: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MIEOG/2020/03/16/file_attachment...
Thank you
Randy Riley State Librarian Library of Michigan 702 W. Kalamazoo Lansing, MI 48909
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