Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges.

Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers. Sincerely, Jaema Berman -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon

Hi Jaema, Good luck with your review. Capital Area District Libraries in Central Michigan has such a policy. It's online at: http://www.cadl.org/files/7714/1288/7868/SER_105A_Computer_Use_Policy.pdf. Best, Emma Olmstead-Rumsey On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers.
Sincerely, Jaema Berman
-- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org
“Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon
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Kalamazoo Public Library does not deny computer access to patrons unless they have been reported to collections for lost materials. We consider computer access similar to attending a library program, thus patrons can use even with fines. Sincerely, Kevin -- Kevin King Head, Branch and IT Services Kalamazoo Public Library 269-553-7881 | kpl.gov/social-media [cid:image001.jpg@01CDC339.A1971E00]<http://www.kpl.gov/> From: michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org] On Behalf Of Emma Olmstead-Rumsey Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:58 PM To: Jaema Berman Cc: michlib-l@mail.mcls.org Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges. Hi Jaema, Good luck with your review. Capital Area District Libraries in Central Michigan has such a policy. It's online at: http://www.cadl.org/files/7714/1288/7868/SER_105A_Computer_Use_Policy.pdf. Best, Emma Olmstead-Rumsey On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us<mailto:jberman@tln.lib.mi.us>> wrote: Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers. Sincerely, Jaema Berman -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180<tel:248-628-7180> Fax: 248-628-6109<tel:248-628-6109> http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org> http://lists.mlcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l

My personal opinion on this issue, which could start a Mich-lib email storm, but here it is anyway (I get the Mich-lib digest, so maybe there’s already a conversation going that I haven’t yet seen): The purpose of fines and fees is to protect library assets that people check out and do not return timely or do not return at all. I don’t believe accessing the computer has any relation to this issue. So I don’t see a need to prohibit computer use because someone owes fines related to physical materials. We, of course, don’t allow them to check out additional physical materials when they have fines at an egregious level, but that makes perfect sense. Though removal of computer privileges could be a motivation to pay fines, but I don’t believe it’s justified. In the spirit of “creative conflict” dialogue, Kay ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kay Schwartz Director Flint Public Library, 1026 E. Kearsley St., Flint, MI 48502 Phone: 810-249-2038 Fax: 810-249-2633 Email: kschwartz@fpl.info From: Emma Olmstead-Rumsey [mailto:erumstead@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:58 PM To: Jaema Berman Cc: michlib-l@mail.mcls.org Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges. Hi Jaema, Good luck with your review. Capital Area District Libraries in Central Michigan has such a policy. It's online at: http://www.cadl.org/files/7714/1288/7868/SER_105A_Computer_Use_Policy.pdf. Best, Emma Olmstead-Rumsey On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us<mailto:jberman@tln.lib.mi.us>> wrote: Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers. Sincerely, Jaema Berman -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180<tel:248-628-7180> Fax: 248-628-6109<tel:248-628-6109> http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org<mailto:Michlib-l@mcls.org> http://lists.mlcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l

Unofficially and from my alumni account. It is too bad the funds owed amount doesn't give us the information - "this is a scofflaw" and "this is a financially stressed patron." On the former, it may be appropriate and useful to give consequences, including denial of computer access. In the later, denial of access could well be the last straw that keeps someone who doesn't own their own computer, or have internet access, from completing an online job application or request for aid. Also alienating. In that case the role of public library as an equalizer and a support to bootstrapping, is seriously impaired. In practical terms, we don't do this at my library (yet), not only for these idealistic concerns, but because we make guest access available -- rather freely. Fine-penalized access would simply result in more local "guests." Erm..,not to stir the pot -- but would you deny them wi-fi access as well? [?] Mary *Mary Carleton* <mary.carleton@farmlib.org>* MLIS* Coordinator of Technology Farmington Community Library <http://www.farmlib.org/> 32737 West Twelve Mile Rd., Farmington Hills, MI 48334 Ph: 248-848-4302 Fax: 248-553-6892 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Kay Schwartz <kschwartz@fpl.info> wrote:
My personal opinion on this issue, which could start a Mich-lib email storm, but here it is anyway (I get the Mich-lib digest, so maybe there’s already a conversation going that I haven’t yet seen):
The purpose of fines and fees is to protect library assets that people check out and do not return timely or do not return at all. I don’t believe accessing the computer has any relation to this issue. So I don’t see a need to prohibit computer use because someone owes fines related to physical materials. We, of course, don’t allow them to check out additional physical materials when they have fines at an egregious level, but that makes perfect sense. Though removal of computer privileges could be a motivation to pay fines, but I don’t believe it’s justified.
In the spirit of “creative conflict” dialogue,
Kay
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Kay Schwartz
Director
Flint Public Library, 1026 E. Kearsley St., Flint, MI 48502
Phone: 810-249-2038
Fax: 810-249-2633
Email: kschwartz@fpl.info
*From:* Emma Olmstead-Rumsey [mailto:erumstead@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:58 PM *To:* Jaema Berman *Cc:* michlib-l@mail.mcls.org *Subject:* Re: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges.
Hi Jaema,
Good luck with your review. Capital Area District Libraries in Central Michigan has such a policy. It's online at: http://www.cadl.org/files/7714/1288/7868/SER_105A_Computer_Use_Policy.pdf.
Best,
Emma Olmstead-Rumsey
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers.
Sincerely, Jaema Berman
-- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org
“Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon
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Dear Colleagues, Thanks to all of you for your policy language, insights and shared experiences with this issue. Sincerely, Jaema Berman ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us> To: michlib-l@mail.mcls.org Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges. Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers. Sincerely, Jaema Berman -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://lists.mlcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon

We have a medium to small size box of assorted size cassette albums that we would like to give away to anyway who uses RIDES delivery. If you would like them please send me your ZV code and we will get them out to you. See the attached picture. Lori Haas Director Montmorency County Public Libraries P.O. Box 438 Atlanta, MI 49709 voice & fax - (989)785-3941 -----Original Message----- From: Jaema Berman Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:25 PM To: Jaema Berman Cc: michlib-l@mail.mcls.org Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges. Dear Colleagues, Thanks to all of you for your policy language, insights and shared experiences with this issue. Sincerely, Jaema Berman ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaema Berman <jberman@tln.lib.mi.us> To: michlib-l@mail.mcls.org Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Michlib-l] Patron Fines affect on Computer privileges. Dear Colleagues, We are in the process of rewriting our computer use policy and wondered if any of you have policies that connect patrons' fines with the ability to use the public computers. Sincerely, Jaema Berman -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://lists.mlcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l -- Jaema Berman Director Addison Twp. Public Library 1400 Rochester Rd. Leonard, MI 48367 Phone: 248-628-7180 Fax: 248-628-6109 http://www.addisontwp.michlibrary.org “Today a reader, tomorrow a leader.” Margaret Fuller 1810-1850 Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested. ~ Francis Bacon _______________________________________________ Michlib-l mailing list Michlib-l@mcls.org http://lists.mlcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/michlib-l --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
participants (6)
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Emma Olmstead-Rumsey
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Jaema Berman
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Kay Schwartz
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Kevin King
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Lori Haas
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Mary Carleton