When I was the editor for our local newspaper, I had a young lady show up for a job interview in a prom dress. I also received a resume printed in white letters on a black background. Imagine how many black ink cartridges that gentleman went through!   Marian VolekAdministrative AssistantWest Iron District LibraryIron River, Michigan From: "susan.wess@milanlibrary.org" <susan.wess@milanlibrary.org> To: Phillip J Kwik <KwikPJ@troymi.gov>; 'ConnieJo Ozinga' <cjozinga@commercelibrary.info>; "michlib-l@mcls.org" <michlib-l@mcls.org> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] About that job posting I agree. Reminds me of the cover letter I received for a ref librarian.  "I would love to join the staff at Washtenaw Community College and would be an asset". I've often thought I'd like to write up a list of dos ad don'ts for people applying for jobs. If it says no phone calls, do not call.If it says electronic submissions, do not mail a hard copy.When interviewing, do not tell me how you hated your last boss and how mean everyone was to you.Do not arrive late dressed for an alt rock concert and the list goes on .....                         Susan Wess, M.L.I.S. Director     151 Wabash St.Milan, MI 48160734.439.1240734.439.5625 -- FAX             -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] About that job posting From: Phillip J Kwik <KwikPJ@troymi.gov> Date: Mon, June 05, 2017 2:07 pm To: "'ConnieJo Ozinga'" <cjozinga@commercelibrary.info>, "michlib-l@mcls.org" <michlib-l@mcls.org> #yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper _filtered #yiv7149028438 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv7149028438 _filtered #yiv7149028438 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv7149028438 _filtered #yiv7149028438 {panose-1:2 11 5 3 2 1 2 2 2 4;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper #yiv7149028438 p.yiv7149028438MsoNormal, #yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper li.yiv7149028438MsoNormal, #yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper div.yiv7149028438MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper a:link, #yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper span.yiv7149028438MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper a:visited, #yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper span.yiv7149028438MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper span.yiv7149028438EmailStyle17 {color:#002060;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none none;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper .yiv7149028438MsoChpDefault {}#yiv7149028438 _filtered #yiv7149028438 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv7149028438 #yiv7149028438wmQuoteWrapper div.yiv7149028438WordSection1 {} Hello Connie:   I think that your first reaction was correct. I have a fourth reason: the applicant is not comfortable with, or does not believe in, technology. In any case, I do not believe this person is right for your library.   Any such applicant did not follow the submittal directions. If it were my call, I would not accept those applications.   Good luck with your search.   Phillip   Phillip Kwik | Assistant Director                                          Troy Public Library | 510 W. Big Beaver, Troy, MI 48084 | Office: 248.619.7577 | troypl.org       “We believe a strong community embraces diversity, promotes innovation, and encourages collaboration.  We strive to lead by example within the region. We do this because we want everyone to choose Troy as their community for life. We believe in doing government the best.”     From: michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org] On Behalf Of ConnieJo Ozinga Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 1:58 PM To: michlib-l@mcls.org Subject: [Michlib-l] About that job posting   A few weeks ago I posted a job listing on Michlib and my coop's job board.  The listing very clearly states that resume etc. should be submitted to the following email address.  The listing did not include any mailing address.  Today I received my second fat envelope full of paper in application for the job. I have 3 reactions to this fat envelope. 1. This person does not do well at reading directions. 2. This person does know how to look up addresses. 3. The wastebasket. How would you react? Am I wrong here?  Interested in your comments? Also note, that so far I have 20 apps. Connie -- Connie Jo Ozinga Library Director Commerce Township Community Library 180 E. 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As the employment specialist here at our library, when people come to have help with their resume, I also give them information about conducting themselves at an interview and how to respond to a job posting. Connie, you are so right about this person - he/she does not read instructions well which also may lead to they may want to do what they think is right regardless of instructions. Certainly if a person does not respond to your posting in the way you requested (someone they do not know), the question could be asked how will they respond to you if they know you better. Your reaction is so right on to the fat envelope and the person who sent it. One of the things I say to people is the person with the job available does not want to know everything you have ever did in great detail. Keep your resume and responses down to the basic information requested. No one is interested in the life history of our individual working lives to be hired for a job. I also let them know a person with the job does not have time for all that information as well. It is too bad that people do not ask for help when out job hunting, maybe after several years of not being in the job hunting marketplace. Evie Evie Lyzenga Administrative Assistant Allegan District Library Email: elyzenga@alleganlibrary.org On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:26 PM, <susan.wess@milanlibrary.org> wrote:

I agree. Reminds me of the cover letter I received for a ref librarian. "I would love to join the staff at Washtenaw Community College and would be an asset". I've often thought I'd like to write up a list of dos ad don'ts for people applying for jobs.

If it says no phone calls, do not call. If it says electronic submissions, do not mail a hard copy. When interviewing, do not tell me how you hated your last boss and how mean everyone was to you. Do not arrive late dressed for an alt rock concert

and the list goes on .....

*Susan Wess, M.L.I.S.Director * *151 Wabash St.* *Milan, MI 48160* *734.439.1240 <(734)%20439-1240>*

*734.439.5625 <(734)%20439-5625> -- FAX *

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Michlib-l] About that job posting From: Phillip J Kwik <KwikPJ@troymi.gov> Date: Mon, June 05, 2017 2:07 pm To: "'ConnieJo Ozinga'" <cjozinga@commercelibrary.info>, "michlib-l@mcls.org" <michlib-l@mcls.org>

Hello Connie:

I think that your first reaction was correct. I have a fourth reason: the applicant is not comfortable with, or does not believe in, technology. In any case, I do not believe this person is right for your library.

Any such applicant did not follow the submittal directions. If it were my call, I would not accept those applications.

Good luck with your search.

Phillip

*Phillip Kwik** | Assistant Director * Troy Public Library | 510 W. Big Beaver, Troy, MI 48084 | Office: 248.619.7577 | troypl.org <http://www.troypl.org/> [image: cid:image010.jpg@01CF8BD8.30248410] <https://www.facebook.com/troylib> [image: cid:image011.jpg@01CF8BD8.30248410] <https://twitter.com/troylib>

“We believe a strong community embraces diversity, promotes innovation, and encourages collaboration. We strive to lead by example within the region. We do this because we want everyone to choose Troy as their community for life. We believe in doing government the best.”

*From:* michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org [mailto:michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org <michlib-l-bounces@mcls.org>] *On Behalf Of *ConnieJo Ozinga *Sent:* Monday, June 05, 2017 1:58 PM *To:* michlib-l@mcls.org *Subject:* [Michlib-l] About that job posting

A few weeks ago I posted a job listing on Michlib and my coop's job board. The listing very clearly states that resume etc. should be submitted to the following email address. The listing did not include any mailing address. Today I received my second fat envelope full of paper in application for the job. I have 3 reactions to this fat envelope. 1. This person does not do well at reading directions. 2. This person does know how to look up addresses. 3. The wastebasket. How would you react? Am I wrong here? Interested in your comments? Also note, that so far I have 20 apps. Connie

-- Connie Jo Ozinga Library Director Commerce Township Community Library 180 E. Commerce Commerce, MI 48390 (248) 669-8108 x101 <(248)%20669-8108> www.commercelibrary.info

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